Carol's Chickens

For the last three days Treacle seemed back to her normal self, eating, scratching about, dust bathing and bossing the other girls. This morning when I went in at first light, I could instantly see she was back to where she was before we went to the vet. I picked her up and offered her the tuna with her medicine on and she refused it for the first time. She wasn’t interested in any treats and was slow and lethargic.

For the first time we had to resort to syringing her medicine into her beak. I had watched  this being done by Terry on “Hen Cam”. You squeeze open their beak and give them a small drop in the side of their beak then let them swallow and repeat until it’s all gone. You must never pour it down their throat as it could go into their lungs and drown them.

I had also e-mailed Terry and updated her on Treacle’s recovery and said that I wondered if she had got infected from being pecked. Terry said that it was unlikely that infection had come from an external source. She said it’s likely that Treacle had an egg-laying glitch that got infected. Egg yolks are the perfect medium for germ growth, and if one gets stuck in the tract, it can easily get infected.

This made us wonder if as Treacle had got better, she had starting making another egg and the same thing that may have happened before, was happening again. I knew that this time I needed to contact the vet quickly.

I called and updated him, and he said to bring her in at three o’clock and he would x-ray her to see if anything was stuck. He listened to her heart and lungs and had a good feel of her but could find nothing. He gave her a little anaesthetic gas so that he could lay her on her side for the x-ray. He then showed it to me, he said it didn’t show an egg or any evidence of anything being stuck inside. All it showed was a collection of grit in her crop, poor girl.

He said that he felt we hadn’t got on top of her infection and he would give her another steroid injection to kick start her appetite again, this time twice as much so that it would last twice as long, giving her more time to fight the infection. He said to continue with the antibiotics and hopefully this time she will be okay. He said we are doing everything we can for her.

When we got back I tried offering her some tuna but she still wasn’t interested. I started my evening sweep up while keeping an eye on her. She put herself to bed which didn’t surprise me, but then a little later she came back out, had a drink of water then returned to bed. I hope this is a good sign. I am hoping after a nights rest she will eat in the morning and start to pick up again. I now realise it will be a while before we will be able to tell if she is really recovered. I can only hope so, I have had a few tearful moments today and have dreaded the possibility of having to have her put to sleep, I just can’t bare to think about that yet. I really hope that tomorrow brings better news.

Yesterday I visited my new chicken friend Jackie and saw her lovely chooks and her set up. Jackie’s run is completely roofed and I was envious of the lovely dry soil for the girl’s to scratch in and dust bath in.

The real disappointment with my set up is that whatever I do to improve it, it still remains wet and muddy. It was only recently that I added fresh wood chip and already that is now muddy. The girls dry corner remains only a small triangle.The weather seems to remain wet and the run never seems to completely dry out.

I decided to buy another plastic sheet and cover the whole outside area for the rest of the winter. The sheets are inexpensive, the difficulty is how to put it up. I had the idea of threading stiff wire through two sides and throwing it over the top next to the existing sheet then securing inside with wire as before.

My husband said we would never be able to get it over the top. The corner we have already done is easily accessed from our garden but the other half of the roof area joins next doors garden and he said he couldn’t see how we would reach it.

Then my husband had one of his brainwaves. He suggested we fit the plastic sheet to the inside of the roof by stapling it to the wooden batons. We set to work then poured a can of water over it to make sure it would run off okay. We think this will work but will have to wait for the next rain (which shouldn’t be long) to see how well it works.

Plastic sheet on the underside if the roof to give a much bigger dry area

I hope at last the girls will have a nice dry outside area.

When the girls went to bed tonight Treacle ate the pellets again and looked like she had a full crop for the first time in ages. What a relief!

Yesterday my husband needed to go to our local D.I.Y. store. He bought me back a present, this caught his eye as he was about to leave the store.

Chicken cushion

Isn’t this adorable! such a lovely gift.

This morning I took a dish of fish for the girls and Treacle’s smaller dish with her medicine on top. Now she is getting stronger she didn’t want to sit on my lap and tried to jump down to join the girls. I have to keep changing my tactics! I decided to stand up while holding her under one arm and offering her the dish in front of her beak. The fish was tempting enough for this to work and she ate it all. I will do this from now on.

I then resprayed her with the purple (blue) spray as it had washed off after her bath and my husband said he had seen Bluebell give her bare patch a peck. I don’t want any more infection so will keep her covered until her feathers regrow. Treacle was quite vocal about not liking the spray which shows she is back to herself again.

I am still giving the worming powder on sunflower hearts and the girls quickly cleared them up. I will give maggots again each afternoon for a few more days too. It looks like things are getting back to normal here, thank goodness.

I am so glad that I took Treacle to the vet yesterday and now wish that I had done so sooner.

This morning I put some scrambled egg and chopped tomato in a dish with her medicine on top but she wasn’t interested in it. I have come to the conclusion that she doesn’t like scrambled egg as she has refused it each time I offered it. The other three love it. I knew I needed to come up with a better plan.

I went shopping and bought some tins of tuna in oil as she loved the fish when I last gave her some. I put some in a dish for the other three girls and just a little in a dish for Treacle with the medicine on top. I put the bigger dish on the ground and picked Treacle up and sat her on my lap with her dish. She ate almost all of it so I am sure she got the medicine. I will do this each morning from now on.

As the day went on she started looking brighter. She was scratching around which she hasn’t done for a while and she had a dust bath. She even gave Pepper and Dotty some swift pecks to show that she is back in her place as top hen.

After lunch I gave them the worming powder on the sunflower hearts as the vet said I should continue with this as I had started. Treacle ate her share.

I then went to the fishing tackle shop for more maggots. I am determined to get Treacle eating as much as possible. They all went crazy for the maggots and Treacle was scratching for them and pecking the others out of her way. This was looking like Treacle back to herself again.

Scratching for maggots

Treacle looking more herself

Apart from her shabby feathers Treacle looks pretty much back to normal. I am so relieved. In future I would know to go the vets sooner. At first I thought it was just the molt, then being pecked at, but I now know if ever they are lethargic and not eating that I will act straight away. I am glad I took her to the vet before it was too late, I hadn’t realised at the outset how hugely attached I would get to these girls and how heartbreaking it would feel when there is a problem.

The icing on the cake for me was this evening when I did my sweep up, Treacle went to the feeder and had a good go at the pellets before going in to bed. This is the first time I have seen her eat pellets since she went down hill. I can’t believe the rapid transformation in her.

The other change taking place at the moment is that Dotty has just started to squat. She is nine months old, so has taken a fairly long time to grow up. Maybe she will start to lay eggs soon. I am so happy tonight!

Yesterday afternoon when giving the girls the worming powder, I decided to coat sunflower hearts in olive oil then sprinkle with the powder. This worked really well as it was quicker, less messy and the girls soon ate them all, including Treacle. I will do it this way every day now, it needs to be given for seven days.

Last night at bedtime I sat on my little chair with the girls and picked Treacle up and put her on my lap. I felt her crop again and its normal apart from not being big through not eating much. She sat right down on my lap and I stroked her and talked to her. She stayed like this for about ten minutes then jumped down and went to bed.

This morning when I went in at first light and gave some corn, Treacle didn’t attempt any. I dropped some meal worms by her and again she didn’t attempt any of those either. I decided to try hand feeding her. I took in a little dish of oily fish and sat Treacle on my lap. Treacle ate about half of it while I fended the other three off, they were all trying to jump up too and get some. I gave them the other half once Treacle had finished. At least she has eaten something. She then went and stood under a bush and the other three went and stood with her. I have read that they often do this when one of them is unwell. I feel so helpless and sad for her and am so scared that I am losing her.

This afternoon I decide to give Treacle a bath in epsom salts as I have read that it is a really good “pick me up” and if it doesn’t make a chicken better it certainly can do no harm. I bathed her in a bowl of warm water with a quarter cup of epsom salts and kept her there for ten minutes.

Giving Treacle a bath

I then wrapped her in a towel, then gently dried her with a hair dryer on the lowest setting. She was good as gold. I offered some scrambled egg and chopped tomato but she only ate a few bits of tomato. I put her on the floor on a towel and she stood there not moving.

I then phoned the vet at my local pet store and told him everything so far. He said to bring her in at five o’clock. I decided to keep Treacle inside until then.

I took her to the vet and while waiting she sat on my lap and snoozed as it was her bedtime. The vet was very good and I was impressed. He felt her all over and said she had no eggs stuck or problems with her crop which was no surprise because I had already done this. He then listened to her heart and lungs and said they were fine and no respiratory problems. He said he could find nothing wrong apart from her being ill so could only think that it is an infection. He gave her an injection of antibiotic into her breast, she didn’t even flinch! He then gave me some antibiotic medicine to give her for ten days.

The vet said he couldn’t give a prognosis but hoped that the antibiotic would help her regain her appetite and he said that I was doing all the right things and to keep doing as I am. The cost was just over thirty pounds which I though was quite reasonable. I wish I had taken her earlier now but she has gone down quite quickly over the recent days.

Treacle slept on the way home as it was dark and once back I just opened up the side of the coop and popped her in. I really hope to see an improvement soon. Giving her the medicine is going to be tricky but I will try putting it in food and giving it to her on my lap like I did this morning. It comes with a syringe and the vet said I could choose to put it in her food or syringe into her beak which I imagine would be quite stressful so that will be last resort.

My husband observed that she had gone downhill from when she was having her bare patches pecked, before I put the blue spray on her. He wonders if this introduced an infection either from their beaks being in poop or unsavoury items or just the fact that a cut or wound can get infected. We will probably never know but I think he may be right as when I first noticed her bare bottom she was still her happy normal self. She started going downhill from being pecked and I assumed molt and pecking may be enough to stress her. I just hope she starts to get better now. I feel better for having taken her to the vet because I know that I have done all I can. We can only see what tomorrow brings and hope for the best.

Yesterday I went to the vets at our local pet store and ordered some Flubenvet worming powder and a ground sanitising powder as I have read this is a helpful product.

I also tried the girls with some cooked rice in the morning which they loved and although it’s not of nutritional value at least it meant that Treacle had eaten something. In the afternoon I gave them sardines in olive oil as I have read that oily fish is good for them and I was pleased to see Treacle eat this.

In the evening Treacle took herself off to bed first which is a sure sign that she is not herself.

I picked up the Flubenvet today, it says to use one level measuring spoon (which comes with it) per day for seven days. I mixed it with chopped tomato and grapes as these are things I know Treacle will eat. They all ate it and Treacle ate her share.

Treacle doesn’t seem any worse but then also not any better. I have been on the “Down the Lane” forum and everyone has been very helpful. I mentioned seeing some green poops and someone put a chicken poop chart up for me to see. I recognised all the poops classed as normal and none of the abnormal ones so felt a little better.

Then this afternoon I saw a bright green poop that doesn’t appear on the chart. I googled “bright green chicken poop” and was alarmed by what I read. lots of people had seen this and also had the same lethargic, not quite right symptoms that Treacle has. Every one said that the chicken went on to die. I am now totally alarmed. The theories were wide ranging form it being bile through not eating enough, internal infection, liver or kidney problems, ecoli or secondary poisoning. I started to worry about the jasmine that they were eating before I removed it, but the other three girls are fine and that was months ago.

Again on DTL they said not to panic it could just be from the spinach she was having up until a few days ago and that I am doing all the right things. I am trying not to panic but it’s hard and I am feeling really upset and tearful right now. I really can’t bare the thought that I might lose her. I have got to hang in there doing my best for her but I don’t want her to suffer. I hope to have better news soon.

I went out to the chickens before first light this morning. I disconnected the automatic coop door opener and took the side off of the coop. I took Treacle out and put the side back on then offered her the dish of scrambled egg.

The other three girls were calling to be let out as they always do every morning as soon as they hear me come through the gate, let alone opening the side and removing one of them.

Treacle looked upset and confused at being separated from them and couldn’t understand why they weren’t coming out. She totally ignored the dish of food. I knew then that it wouldn’t work separating her because she was just too stressed to want to eat anything.

I let the other girls out and took the dish away to split between two dishes and bring back in later. I thought this would give Treacle more of a chance to get some. That didn’t work either! The three girls quickly demolished it while Treacle stood and watched, making no attempt to join in.

I am really worried that Treacle isn’t eating any pellets and is only eating treats and even these less enthusiastically than usual. She is just not her normal self.

Later I took two pots in with live yogurt and some poultry spice mixed in. They all ate it including Treacle but again not as enthusiastically as the others. At least she ate some though.

Yogurt with poultry spice mixed in

After lunch I gave the girls the other half of the maggots. Once again they made short work of those and Treacle ate a share of them.

The other thing I have noticed is that Treacle has had some green poops. I put this down to her having greens each day and not eating pellets to dilute it but I have just done some research and read that it can also be a sign of worms. This has put me into my next panic and I am going back to the vet in our local pet store tomorrow to order some Flubinvet or any similar worming product. I also read that it is good to use a ground sanitising powder so will ask for this too. I will try cutting out the greens as well.

I have also read that a little oily fish is a good source of protein when they are molting so may try that tomorrow too. I hate to see her under the weather and will try anything to help her along.

The latest thing worrying me about Treacle is that I haven’t seen her eat any pellets recently. I think her molt has put her off her food and she is only eating treats. I didn’t see her eat pellets last night when I spent half hour with the girls before bedtime and again this morning when I spent half hour with them as they came out of the coop.

I made up some scrambled egg to give them first thing this morning in the hope of getting some goodness into Treacle but it didn’t work. The other three girls fell on it and Treacle was so slow she didn’t get any. I tried to keep the others from it and kept putting it by Treacle but she just stood there and let them have it. I felt really frustrated and decided that I needed a better plan.

I thought of separating Treacle while I give her scrambled egg but only have the rat cage and Treacle is my biggest girl. I feel that would be too stressful for her, so I have come up with a plan. Tomorrow before it’s light I will go out and open up the side of the coop and take Treacle out then close it again. I will then unhook the string on the door opener so that it won’t open automatically and switch on the floodlight. Then I will put a pot of scrambled egg in front of Treacle and see if she eats it before I let the other girls out. It’s not fool proof but worth a try.

In the mean time I decided to go to the fishing tackle shop and get some maggots to see if I could give her a boost today. We gave them half of them this afternoon and the girls made short work of them. Treacle managed to get her share of them and was much quicker at getting stuck in.

They are so speedy that their heads are a blur!

Fluffy bottoms

Pepper in action

I just managed to get Pepper with a maggot in her beak, yum! I hope this gives Treacle a boost. She seems a bit brighter but her not eating is a worry.

Since we have had the new top to the run and have put the new plastic sheet over the corner, the rain seems to run off and blow back in. This is making the edge that borders the veg plot very wet and muddy. I decided to buy just one more bag of wood chip, I know! When will I ever stop buying stuff for this run?

I did a poop pick, then forked over the corner that has no wood chip. The girls know when they see the fork that there may be worms and gather round. I thought some worms would help boost Treacle but Pepper and Bluebell are so quick that they got all the biggest ones. Treacle did get a few smaller ones though. Dotty always seems distracted somewhere else and doesn’t get so excited by the worms.

I then put a strip of wood chip at the edge that borders the veg plot, leaving a smaller triangle uncovered for future worm hunting. Next I sprinkled the rest on all the parts that get the most muddy.

Treacle and the new wood chip

The wood chip is now on the outside strip of the corner leaving a triangle free for the girls to scratch in. I fork it over every few days to see if there are worms for the girls and to stop it getting compacted.

Corner of the run

Pepper is scratching in the remaining uncovered triangle. Seeing this photo shows how well camouflaged the dominiques are. Pepper blends into the earth.

Treacle preening

Treacle is still not her usual self but she was preening her feathers this afternoon which is a good sign. I gave the girls some greens and some tomato this afternoon and when Treacle saw the tomato she actually sprinted up to it. I haven’t seen her eating pellets though and she isn’t as enthusiastic as usual. I did pick her up this morning to feel her crop and it felt normal.

Pepper has some blue feathers

It’s difficult to see in a photo but Pepper has some blue dye on her wing feathers, she must have snuggled up to Treacle overnight and it rubbed off on her.

Blue Treacle

This photo shows Treacle’s missing  feathers. It looks like someone has taken a bite out of her silhouette, it also shows the natural blue sheen on the feathers on her back making the blue spray quite a good match for her.

This evening at bedtime I spent some time sitting in with the girls to keep an eye on Treacle. She soon jumped onto my lap and stood there for ages while I stroked her. Chickens don’t bare a grudge and despite spraying her three times two days ago, she was still happy to come to my lap several times and seem to like having a bit of attention. Bluebell soon jumped onto my lap as well so as not to miss out.

I noticed Pepper’s crop looked quite large so I picked her up and felt her crop. It wasn’t hard or squishy so hopefully is just full.

The final thing to update on is the rat situation. I think we have got rid of them at last!! Since we had recent works done to the chicken run they have not been able to get in, finally. However they had chewed a hole into the big shed behind the chickens so we put poison down as only the rats could find it in there. It went very quickly at first, then slowed, then stopped. I hope this means the end of them. It’s been a long hard battle but we I think we have finally got there and we haven’t seen any further evidence of them.

About a week ago I noticed Treacle was going through a partial molt and had a bare patch on her bottom and smaller bare patches under her wings. She had a small scab under her wing which healed really quickly but her bottom was clear. A few days later I noticed she had some scabs on her bottom. We have seen Bluebell peck at her bare patches which is really odd because Treacle is top hen and Bluebell is bottom hen and has never pecked before. I can only think that as Treacle and Bluebell are always hanging out together that Bluebell finds the bare patches irresistible.

Treacle’s bottom with a couple of red scabs

I have read that a Genitian purple spray can be used to cover the bare skin and redness that attracts pecking and it is also an antiseptic (you must make sure to avoid the chickens vent). I went to the vet based in our local pet store and asked if they had this. He said he could order in for me, a similar product but that it is a different brand, called Terramycin and that it would be in the next day.

Since Treacle has been molting she has stopped laying eggs. She was laying every other day up until the molt but hasn’t laid an egg for seven days now. Bluebell lays most days and Pepper every other day, Dotty hasn’t started yet. Other than not laying eggs Treacle seemed okay until the pecking started then she didn’t seem her usual self. I have increased the protein to help Treacle with her molt, giving sunflower hearts or dried meal worms. She is not as enthusiastic about the treats and is not eating as much as usual. She wanders off on her own and just doesn’t seem her usual self.

I had read that scrambled egg is good for them, made with a little olive oil to stop it sticking and a little water, it gives them some of the goodness of the eggs back again. I made some from two of Bluebells eggs and put it in the white ramkins that I give them their weekly yogurt in. They rushed over with great excitement because they thought it was yogurt and then there was disappointment. They didn’t want to know. I sprinkled some corn on top to encourage them and with that they tried a little. They ate about half so I put the other half in the fridge and offered it to them again the following morning. Much to my surprise they wolfed it down. Treacle who would usually be first to any treat was last to it and only had a little bit which worried me, as it shows that she is not her usual self.

Eating some scrambled egg

Scrambled egg

While in the pet store I also bought some apple cider vinegar and some poultry spice to try to give Treacle a boost. Apple cider vinegar added to their drinking water is supposed to maintain inner health and a healthy appearance. It should not be used in galvanised drinkers so I put it in a heavy china bowl (the red spotted bowl in the photo above). The poultry spice is supposed to improve all round condition and help them get quickly over a molt.

They drank from the water with the added apple cider vinegar as normal. The instructions on the poultry spice suggested sprinkling a teaspoon over their pellets. They didn’t like it at all and refused to eat their pellets (the poultry spice does has a strong smell, a bit like Indian spices). I sprinkled another layer of pellets over the top but they didn’t eat as many pellets as usual which is not helpful.

I decided to abandon this idea and fill the feeder with fresh pellets as I don’t want them to stop eating them. I then decided to try adding the poultry spice to their weekly live,  natural yogurt which they love. Cracked it! They wolfed it down and Treacle looked more her normal self, pecking Pepper and Dotty away from the yogurt so she could get more. Result! From now on I will add this to their yogurt each week.

The next day I collected what the vet refers to as “purple spray” I have to say I would describe this brand of it as “blue spray”. Spraying Treacle’s bare patches with this proved much more difficult than I thought it would. I thought it would take two so my husband came up to help me. I put on my scruffy chicken skirt as the girls have muddy feet and sat on my little chair. I thought it best to let Treacle come to me and as good as gold she jumped onto my lap. My husband held her while I sprayed but the problem was that while she was sat on me, I couldn’t see the bare patch on her bottom as her feathers were covering it. As soon as I put her down I could see the bare patch again. I had sprayed her feathers but not her bare bottom.

I left her to calm down as she wasn’t best pleased at being sprayed then went back later for another go. This time I grabbed her and tried again. Once again when I put her down I could still see her bare patch. I decided to have one final go after they had gone to bed as I didn’t want to stress her any more. My husband came with me to shine the torch and I lifted her from her perch onto my lap. I sprayed as best as I could and put her back in.

In the morning I could see that I had still missed her bare patch but the scabs were covered so I hope this will be enough to deter pecking. I feel the only way to target the bare patch would be to go up behind her and spray but she wouldn’t allow that. I don’t want to stress her so will leave it at that for now.

Treacle’s blue bottom

Blue feathers

The blue actually blends in quite well with Treacle’s dark feathers which have a blue/green sheen to them normally. I may not have covered all the bare skin but hopefully this will do the job. We haven’t seen Bluebell peck at her at all today.

I just hate to see her under the weather and really hope she perks up soon. I don’t know what else I can do for her, I will be keeping a close eye on her.