Carol's Chickens

Having finally come to the difficult decision that I need to re-home Pepper and Dotty I felt I needed to move forward and start planning the future of my flock.

The recently doubled run would now be a huge space for four little girls and I would like to add two more bantams. From my recent research I know how difficult it is to find bantams within my local area. I remembered that the lady at the farm in Amersham where I got Honey and Amber from last year had lots of bantam brown leghorns which are another pure breed and look like a miniature version of Bluebell (now Blossom). They are pretty, robust, good egg layers and have bare legs. These are all the qualities that I like.

I decided to give her a ring and see what she had. The news was good. She has many chicks ranging from a of couple weeks old to a month old. She said this meant in a months time she would have some at an age to sex and to sell. The timing could be really good for me. I explained the situation and said I would keep in touch. She said when I was ready she would be able to sell me a couple at about two months old. This would be really good as it’s easier to bond when they are young and I now have the separate part of the run ready to keep them in until they are big enough to integrate.

I am still getting upset about parting with Pepper and Dotty and have been giving more thought to how to re-home them for a future that would be best for them. I haven’t yet heard back from the animal sanctuary but have started wondering if it would be better if I could re-home them on a farm. I think they are a breed that would love the space on a farm rather than being contained in a domestic run. I am going to call a few local farms tomorrow and run it by them. I have no idea if this something that a farm would consider but I feel it’s worth asking the question.

Finally I have to remind myself why I am doing this so I took a few photos of Amber and Honey today. The girls have been separated now for three weeks and I have reduced their time together at bedtime. I had seen Pepper peck at Amber’s bare head as soon as I put them together and it was looking quite red. I now only put them together for fifteen minutes before bedtime when they are totally occupied with the bedtime routine. They come out at about five o’clock in the morning at the moment and I have been going out to separate them at about half past six.

Amber’s bare neck

Amber’s poor plucked head

Honey’s bare neck

I just can’t let this continue any longer. I got my first girls two years ago and this started eighteen months ago when we lost Treacle. I have tried everything to stop this and really don’t think that I have any other option now. I want to get back to having a happy flock and being able to enjoy them again. I want a flock with feathers. I know that I have to go on with this until I have the best outcome for all my girls.

Yesterday Amber looked really unwell again and I knew her next egg was on the way. I worry every time she looks like this and my husband always tells me she will bounce back once she gets her egg laid.

I am still giving her limestone flour and cod liver oil but I know in my heart it makes no difference. What ever is wrong with her egg making machinery or her inability to absorb calcium it’s something that I can’t fix.

Poor little Amber always looks like this when about to lay her egg

At bedtime Amber was in the nest box with Topaz which is where she always goes when she feels like this. I hoped by morning she would have laid her egg.

When I went in this morning Amber bounced over back to her usual self. I felt sure this meant there would be an egg in the nest box. This is what I found.

Amber’s latest egg

The shell was once again really soft and the egg was oozing out. She must have laid it really early as it didn’t get eaten.

Amber has sat in the nest box a few times today. She often does this as if she doesn’t realise she has laid it. I am thankful every time she manages to get her egg laid. Luckily she is only laying about once a week at the moment.

Last night after chatting to my husband and to Jackie about the possibility of re-homing Pepper and Dotty my eldest son Steve called me after reading my blog post. We had a long discussion about it and he too thought re-homing them would be the best thing all round, best for the little girls and best for the big girls too. He felt they would be better re-homed separately so that the pecking habit gets broken.

After much soul searching I have reached the decision that this is what I must do. I called in at the animal sanctuary nearby to have a look round and to chat to someone there.

I was really impressed with the place and the good work that they do. They had a horse, two pigs, a few ducks, a few chickens and quite a few cockerels. They match the animals to good homes and keep them if a good home can’t be found.

The lady I talked to was very understanding. I explained everything about the feather pulling and that I had re-homed Bluebell (now Blossom) with Jackie and the feather pulling stopped in a different flock. I said I felt in a new flock of big girls it could stop as it had with Jackie’s flock. I said how good they were with people and are easy to handle and how difficult this decision was for me.

At that point I broke down and cried then apologised and she said when people are upset it shows they care for their animals and they will have been well looked after. She offered me a cup of tea but I said I was okay now.

She took my details and said someone would call me in a few days. They have no space at the moment as each run and coop are occupied but she said she hoped they could come up with a solution in a couple of weeks.

I feel better for reaching a decision as this has been upsetting the flock and my husband and me for so long now.

Another point Steve made was that by alternating the girls on different sides every two days I may be unsettling them and that may be why there is more shouting especially over the nest boxes. They need their own space and their own nest box so I am going to try putting them on the same side for a while.

This has been a really difficult decision but I know in my heart I will have a happier flock.

Last night and early this morning we had torrential rain. For hours it hammered down and we wondered how the chicken run was holding up to it.

When I went out this morning all of the new extension part of the run which we have just fitted with roof panels was wet as was the old part of the run under the panels. The only dry part was the triangular area that we had put plastic sheeting over and of course the patio area with its solid roof.

I felt that I couldn’t separate the girls as one group would have no dry ground.

The silicon sealant hasn’t worked as water is still dripping through the wood joins. It’s also coming in at the end of the first set of panels and at the sides.

It is however running off outside of the end of the run and although the soil is wet at least it’s not full of puddles like before we covered it.

It wasn’t long before I saw Pepper pecking at Honey and Amber’s heads and Pepper was also constantly shouting. Gradually the other girls joined in and all were very noisy. After repeatedly going out to them I decided enough was enough and separated them again with the little girls in the wettest side.

They instantly stopped shouting and I wondered if they have got used to being separated. It was very odd.

I set about trying to dry the feeding area in the wettest side and moved one of the slabs into the gateway where it is most muddy.

Stepping stone through the muddiest part

The triangular area on the left is dry but the rest is wet

This part is wet despite the roof panels

The problem is keeping enough dry area for the girls to be separated. If they were altogether the triangular part would give enough dry plus the patio area but the group on the other side of the run have very little dry area.

The other problem is that since I have been separating the girls Pepper has become very noisy and spends a lot of time shouting. She is also plucking Dotty when they are together and plucking the little girls’ heads when they are all together.

I am reaching the end of my tether with this problem. It has taken the joy out of my flock. My husband is heartily sick of the problems and suggested we should look into re-homing Pepper and Dotty.

I feel heart sick at the thought and at first said that I just couldn’t think of doing this. I later talked to my friend Jackie and she agreed with my husband. She said she agrees with him that Pepper and Dotty are probably not suited to being kept in a closed run and would be better suited to a farm environment. She suggested the feather pulling may stem from them not being happy and they are spoiling the happiness of the rest of the flock.

My husband and Jackie also pointed out that we have spent so much time, effort and money on the run and yet are not able to enjoy our flock.

I have started thinking that they may be right. It would break my heart to let Pepper and Dotty go as I have had them from babies and I love them. But I do have to think of the happiness of the whole flock. Without Pepper and Dotty the little girls could have the whole run to themselves and with that much space could have a happy life. They would grow their feathers back and not get plucked again.

I know I can’t break Pepper and Dotty of the habit with my little girls but when Bluebell (now Blossom) went to Jackie’s flock she stopped feather plucking. Pepper and Dotty may not do it if they were with big girls.

I would only ever keep bantys in future. The other thing is that if the little girls ever learn the habit from Pepper and Dotty I will stuck with it in my flock forever.

I am feeling very sad at the thought of doing this but am beginning to think that it is the only way I will have a happy flock and be able to enjoy the girls again and maybe the big girls will be happier too.

We recently talked to a lady that runs a charity animal sanctuary where they keep pets until they can re-home them. They either find them the right home or keep them forever and they have chickens and cockerels.

Jackie also suggested a farm near us where they keep animals for children to visit may be an option. With a heavy heart I am going to give this some serious thought.

When I let the girls’ together at the end of each day they instantly switch sides. They rush to the feed dishes on the other side as if the food in the opposite dish must be better despite being identical.

I give the girls’ some greens every day at mid morning. If I have a cabbage heart I hang it on wire from the gate. I did this this morning on the little girls side and the big girls’ frantically walked up and down the wire wanting to get to the cabbage. I hung some on the inside of the big girls gate and the little girls’ tried to peck at it from their side.

Okay I can solve this. I moved the cabbage from the little girls’ side to hang on the other side of the big girls’ gate. Instant harmony as they could all peck away together.

Cabbage

Honey isn’t with them as she is in the nest box laying her egg. Sparkle isn’t with them as she is a bit of a loner and shows no interest in joining in with the other girls’. Even if they have a dish of mash or scrambled egg Sparkle never joins in and she is always wandering about on her own and doesn’t let the other girls get too close her. They all have such different characters.

I have always liked the fact that the chicken coop and feeding station were on the patio area as any pine shavings and spilt food can easily be swept up.

The newly separated area doesn’t work so well as the shavings get scratched from the coop into the soil and some food makes it to the soil too.

I decided to make another little patio area out of anything I could find in the garden. We had some paving stones that we used as stepping stones in the garden when we wanted to do some weeding. They had become so overgrown that were hidden and never used any more.

I found them all and gathered them up to make an area in front of the little coop which is used as a nest box and for the food and water. It’s a bit makeshift and I’m not sure how well it will work but as it hasn’t cost anything I thought it worth a try.

A chicken patio

Okay it’s not a patio as such more a selection of paving stones jig sawed together but I think it will do the job.

Yesterday afternoon we finished work at lunch time so decided to get on with fitting some more roof panels.

Because of the way the beams run we could only overlap the two centre strips. The outer strips couldn’t overlap and the water from the current panels would pour into the centre of the run. To get round this my husband came up with a plan to use corrugated plastic panels over the outer strips and leave them in place permanently. There will still be plenty of open space to the run when the other panels are opened up.

We fitted these outer panels first which wasn’t the easiest of jobs to do. They needed to be cut to fit around the wooden posts.

We then fitted two overlapping panels in each of the remaining two centre strips. My husband thought duck tape over the joins in the wooden beams might stop water dripping in but we soon found that it wouldn’t stick to the wood. Since I took these photos I have peeled all the grey tape off again.

The roof panels are completed

The run is dug over

I then dug over the entire run as it was really compacted from us standing on it while working and also I thought it would help it to dry out. The girls had a great time as there were lots of worms and they each got a share. It was hard work as it’s now a big space to dig over.

Today my husband has decided to try sealing the joins in the wood with silicon sealant. It is a clear outdoor sealant and says it can be used on damp surfaces so we are hopeful this will work. It is forecast to rain all week so we should soon be able to see how dry the run stays.

Topaz likes to get into the new little tree in the run and snack on the leaves. Usually I don’t have my camera with me but just as I  finished taking the photos of the roof panels she got up into the tree.

Topaz in the tree

Topaz is the only one of them that does this.

Finally I can never resist a perching photo and just had to take this one of the little girls together.

The little girls perch together

From the left we have Sparkle then Topaz then Amber and Honey on the right.

I thought that because the rosemary was so pungent it would be safe from the girls but I was wrong. They have all decided that they like scratching in it and are trashing it.

The rosemary is being shredded

I was going to see if I could find something at the garden centre to protect it but my husband said he would make something from the left over weld mesh.

The new rosemary protector

Sparkle and Amber inspect it

I have dug it into the ground and the heavy stone on top will keep it in place and make it safe for the girls to sit or stand on if they want to. The joins in the weld mesh are covered by duct tape. Hopefully now the rosemary will have a chance to grow.

We have been so busy with work this week with two big functions on, that I haven’t had time to blog, so I thought I would do an update.

Firstly Honey’s eye is much better, it has healed much more quickly than I expected. It looks pretty much back to normal now.

Honey’s eye is looking much better, this was yesterday, five days after the accident

The girls have been separated for two weeks now. It’s harder work for me and I miss interacting so easily with which ever set is on the furthest side as I have to go through their gate to be with them. I am alternating which side they are on every two days.

I know the girls are happier when they are together and they have twice as much space when they are together.

Honey especially wants to be with the big girls and is always at the gate trying to slip through. She has managed a couple of times and yesterday she managed to get under the wire through the tiniest gap. I have now heaped the soil up against it.

It is such a shame as I would dearly love to have them altogether but I can’t let the little girls get plucked any more.

I know this won’t break the habit because Pepper and Dotty are still plucking each other. Pepper plucks Dotty’s head and neck and Dotty plucks Pepper’s bottom. Now that Pepper only has Dotty to pluck feathers from, Dotty’s head is suddenly looking worse. Her head feathers had started to grow back but are now disappearing again.

Dotty’s head is missing feathers

Amber’s head and neck look awful

Amber is giving me a lot of chat as usual as you can see from her open beak.

Sparkle’s bare bottom does have some black dots appearing

Topaz looks pristine

Topaz is the only girl that doesn’t look plucked but when the girls were together I did pick up some beautiful Topaz feathers. Luckily there weren’t enough plucked from her to notice.

My plan is to stick with it until the little girls are fully feathered again (even if that is after the moult) and then try them together again. If the feather plucking restarts I will then separate them again.

They have an hour in the morning together when they are occupied by feeding, drinking and snoozing or dust bathing and an hour together before bedtime when they are again occupied feeding, drinking and scratching. If they lose an odd feather during this time, like Topaz, it probably won’t make much difference. What I don’t want is them being ruined like Amber.

The other thing to update on is Topaz and her egg laying or not as is actually the case. We thought she may have laid her first egg a few weeks ago but I now know that it wasn’t her and was probably Honey’s egg.

I was out at the time and my husband noticed Topaz was missing for while then she started shouting and he looked in the nest box and found an egg so assumed it was hers. Since then she has gone into the nest box every day for about half an hour and then she comes out shouting her head off. I go and investigate and each time have been surprised to find no egg. I think she is practising and will start laying soon.

The other give away was that the egg that day was large (for a banty egg) and round which is what Honey’s eggs are like. Sparkle’s eggs are small and narrow and I would expect Topaz to lay a similar egg.

I feel sure she will start laying soon and I will know when she does.

Tomorrow we are going to start fitting the roof panels on the remaining open part of the run and I can’t wait to get it all under cover. It has been horrible poop picking in a boggy run. Once it is covered I will fork the whole run over to help it dry out which will take some time but which will be so nice once it’s dry.

I would just like to see some feathers coming through on the little girls. I think there are a few pins showing on Sparkle’s bottom and possibly one on Amber’s head but one is a bit disappointing. I suppose I must be patient.

The child gate works like a dream. First thing in the morning when I would go into the run Honey and Amber would always be putting their heads in the hinge corner of the gate or trying to squeeze past me to have a quick forage on the outside of the gate. When this happened I would hold the gate open and wait for them to come back in and have the corn tub on stand by if extra persuading was needed.

It always worried me that if something spooked them and they flew off they wouldn’t be able to find their way back. I always ended up coming through the gate stooped down with my hands cupped against them to try to keep them in. The odd thing was that they only ever did this first thing in the morning.

This morning it was so good to have the barrier of the child gate in place. They couldn’t put their heads in the hinged corner of the gate and they couldn’t slip past me to the outside. As awful as the accident with Honey was, the good that has come from it, is that it made us put up the child gate. It just wasn’t something we had ever thought of before but not only does it safe guard the girls from this kind of accident but it also allows me to slip through the gate easily without trying to hold them away.

The other improvement is Honey’s eye. It is only the second day since the accident and her eye is now half way open.

Honey’s eye still looks poorly but is half open now

This much improvement to her eye in such a short time is really encouraging.

The other improvement we want to make is to cover the last section of the run. We intended to make the decision once we could tell how the run was holding up in the rain. It has been raining all morning and the uncovered section is now a quagmire with muddy puddles collecting.

Before the really heavy rain it was already very wet at the border where the panels end because all the water that runs down the panels gets dumped on to the next section of the run but after more rain the entire outside area was water logged.

The uncovered half of the run is a quagmire

It’s a mass of muddy puddles

We have an extremely busy week of work this week so won’t be able to tackle this next job until the weekend.

We plan to put the movable panels on the middle two strips where they can be overlapped. We will put permanent corrugated panels on the outer edges where the timbers stop them being able to overlap. This should stop water pouring in at the joins. We also intend putting strips of masking tape over the joins in the roof timbers where water is leaking in at the moment.

We will put left over off cuts from the panels round the outside top edge of the run to help water drain out instead of dripping in.

No matter how much work we put in on this run it’s seems that it is never finished. We are hopeful that this may just be the last improvements needed, for a while anyway.

After the awful accident with Honey yesterday I wanted to safe guard against it ever happening again.

This morning she was her normal self and stuck her head through the gate just like yesterday (she hasn’t learned her lesson!). She was bouncy as ever, had no problem zooming in on some sunflower seeds and laid her egg even though she had laid yesterday. My husband also saw her jump up to one of the high perches so it seems having one eye partially closed hasn’t hampered her at all. I think her eye looks a little better but it will take time to get back to normal.

The bit that trapped Honey was the back end of the gate which is difficult for me to see. It’s a bit like when your toddler puts their fingers in the hinge side of the door and the older child shuts the door on them (well this happened with my children).

I mentioned to my husband that my friend Jackie has a child gate at her kitchen door as one of her girls got her leg shut in the door and he said that we have a redundant child gate and could do the same thing.

Off he went to fit the child gate inside of the run gate. What a brilliant solution. I have spent so long worrying about trapping them, being careful, telling them to get their heads out of the gate, and now finally the awful thing happened, but never again. I will have the peace of mind that this won’t be happening again.

Child proof gate from the outside

Child proof gate from the inside

Child gate shut while the main gate is open

The main gate doesn’t stay open on it’s own so I have wedged it open to show what it will look like as I enter the run. The bit that trapped Honey was the on the left hand side of the picture which is now completely blocked by the batons of wood. She will no longer be able to put her head through here when I open the gate.

It will take me a bit of getting used to going through two gates but I am happy that this sort of accident won’t be able to happen again. It could have been so much worse and now I have peace of mind that I don’t to have worry every time I go through the gate.